On a personal level, that's not the kind of situation I want to be in, having to relearn someone or have someone learn me at this point in my career. But this is one of those nothing-you-can-do-about-it situations. ... The priority is and the important part is Dave is OK.
You can't cost your team games trying to learn a job. You can't do that. There's no excuse for what happened.
It takes two. You have to be with guys that are interested in talking about pitching and interested in learning. There's a chance for me to learn as well. There's a lot of different ways to skin a cat. But those are a good group of guys.
It was a pivotal time in my career, and fortunately for me, he was interested in me. That says a lot about him. ... I still watch video of him. I still learn from him. Just odds and ends, whatever I can pick up.